ok, i would like to submit to the forum the following question: in abstract, do you think that there is a right to not being exposed to ideas that you don’t like or disagree with?
please think it through and its implications on both ends of the spectrum.. it’s not the right to conscientious objection to do something you vehemently disagree with; it’s not about the liberty to chose which ideas you want to embrace or advocate.
it’s something different.. given that, as exjws, we understand the importance of being exposed to different opinions in order to form our own opinion, should someone claim the right not to be exposed to opinions or ideas that they don’t like?
You take the right by choosing not to watch. Millions now living are not paying a blind bit of attention to their Zoom meetings.
Actually did you know that one of the most effective ways to not listen to the Zoom meeting is to place your mobile device in the fridge. It's nice and sound proofed.
the emphasized bible (rotherham) is now included in the wt library under "other bibles.".
therefore it joins kit, kjv, asv, & the bible in living english in such group.. any thoughts?.
David Sidbury at London Bethel was not telling me the truth when he said it would be too expensive to put the Bible online.
He's the one who collected the many Bibles they had on display in UK.
i’m seeing my hard core believing relatives slowly losing faith that the watchtower is the organization that “god” is using to represent him on earth.. just about all the churches in their area have opened up.. but not the watchtower.. this is having an affect on the faith of even the old timers.
now the only ones who are still holding the faith are the female jws and only those past 70 years of age.
even my old male jw relative past 70 are starting to say that it can’t be jehovah’s organization because the other churches are all open and god supposed organization who is supposed to preach the warning message is still closed with no open in sight.
According to the Masons, some JWs have joined their lodge.
i hate anyone bothering me going door to door and house to house.
maybe it’s my jw background?
i dunno..
What an opportunity. Invite them in, offer them a free home Bible study. Ask them if they'd like to live forever and tell them you have something far better than a vaccine. Ask them were they live, get their phone number - if they don't live in your area, arrange for a friend to call and call again and keep calling. Make sure you keep some tracts beside the door ready for them.
question: what does the watchtower society's history of prophetic speculation prove?.
how would you respond to this answer provided by paul coom... yesterday on quora?.
"our organization has never been a prophetic speculator.
What does it prove? With a little leaven they become hypocrites. And true to form they even say it themselves but point the finger at someone else, with of course 3 fingers pointing back at them.
*** kc chap. 11 p. 101 par. 11 Kingdom Illustrations ***
Viewing the sorry result of apostasy in Christendom, the “little flock” of Kingdom heirs and their companions today should beware that the “leaven” of false, deceptive teachings is never permitted to contaminate their heartfelt appreciation of the purity and truth of the “word of the kingdom
(Matthew 16:12) . . .Then they grasped that he said to watch out, not for the leaven of the loaves, but for the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
as someone else noted.
why is the new awake a setting in india in every illustration?.
Given WT is basically Theosophical, why not India? They could find another Buddha sorry, I meant World Teacher sorry, I meant Krishnamurti. That'd make 9 on the GB unless the new Brother Buddha encourages the other 8 to step down.
What really did it was the World Teacher Project.
“Blavatsky had stated in 1889 that the main purpose of establishing the Society was to prepare humanity for the future reception of a “torch-bearer of Truth”, an emissary of a hidden Spiritual Hierarchy that according to Theosophists guides the evolution of Humankind. This was repeated by Besant as early as 1896; Besant came to believe in the imminent appearance of the “emissary”, who was identified by Theosophists as the so-called World Teacher.”
Well, in 1909 they found him. As it turns out, what a coincidence, living just next door to Theosophy’s headquarters in India, was a 14 year old boy Leadbetter discovered who was this great Teacher, the next Jesus and Buddha. Jiddu Krishnamurti was put into care of Theosophists, his father being too poor to care for him well, and Annie started grooming him for his great future role and established The World Teacher Project to trumpet his Messiahood.
She also began the group The Star In The East, which would follow and spread his teachings. These became the new center of Theosophy alongside Blavatsky’s work.
It was too much for some and the final straw for others. Theosophy began cracking and splitting. The worst split came in 1912 when Rudolph Steiner decided he had enough, split from Theosophy and took over 90% of German Theosophists with him.
These are interesting links too - Josh Groban
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS-j6DAyO3s
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/208291/whats-josh-groban
Also - this scare-mongering film plays right into WT's hand. It is called Awake and speaks of a time when humanity has lost the ability to sleep. But we all know the remedy. Attend a meeting. Long kip guaranteed (so long as you don't have any privileges to attend to - top tip - don't reach out).
i have an idea for a jw tee shirt.
jehovah's witnesses redefining words since 1914.
Watchtower - the gold standard for insanity.
what do you think of the following sample disassociation letter from 4jehovah.org ?.
if you are looking to disassociate from jehovah’s witnesses, here is a sample letter you can modify for your use:.
i have decided to disassociate myself from the ____________ congregation of jehovah’s witness.
Why disassociate from them? It is as if you are acknowledging their authority which is fake and condoning their con trick. They were never Jehovah's Witnesses in the sense that Isaiah meant and they were never a genuine group of Christians (although some individuals were Christians). Here's the proof. 19+14=33 - and that really is the proof.
did you ever really think they were?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aczp-csg0s8.
in relation to the scriptures in isaiah it was identity theft..
Don't try to put dates in Psycho - WT's dates are crazy and make no sense. Jehoiakim reigned for 11 years, so you do a count of 1 to 11. Not 9 to 11, then say Jehoiakim only ruled for 3 years.
Also Nebuchandezzar's 1st year of rulership is not his 19th year of rulership.
Hi Phizzy - I don't know why Rutherford took that name but certainly by opposing the simple maths from Jeremiah and Ezekiel, let alone Daniel, WT renders itself apostate to Jehovah's Witnesses. Quite an achievement in terms of accidents when you think of it. One of those ultimate fails.
i overheard mrs eyeslice listening to '2021 governing body update 3' yesterday.
apparently, they have started ditching foreign language groups and congregations as these weren't exactly roping anyone in.
of course there is a positive spin on all this - '4,000 plus elders freed up to serve in local language congregations' and of course there has been immensely positive feedback from various branches about the benefits of this.. i suspect though there will be an awful lot of elders who were serving as king pins in these congregations who are going to have their noses put out by going back to local language congregations where they will barely be used.
Agree with IWant2Leave - I knew quite a few who went to foreign lang congs because they did not agree with the fake doctrines and found it easier to listen to them in a language they didn't understand.
But a recent comment from elder went like this 'we recognise the pattern of language from the FDS, every other pattern of speech is from Satan.'
Wonder what pattern of speech they'll come back with if they've had 10 years in a Spanish, Chinese or Sign Lang congregation ducking and diving? The foreign lang cong was the final hiding place. Next step is either fade/exit or go along with it all.
Road to Nowhere - took me a while to work out why we had a Sign Language group but rarely any deaf people. They used to sign whole meetings for those that could hear perfectly well. And they'd do the song as well.
